[SKAPEGOAT]

Ok so i thought I would put up a post encouraging people to start biking.
The options are a guidline and if anyone thinks I have missed a bike just include it with a pic and insurance!



We will start from the most likley first bikes mopeds!

MOPEDS!

There are many makes and models with all 50cc models in group one!
here are some(all have the same top speed)
Gilera runner 50 comes in a 125 and a 180 version too!

honda x8rs

pugeot speedfight

Gilera dna 50 comes in a 125 and 180 version too!



yamaha Aerox 50cc
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These ar not all the mopeds on the market but are the most common starterbikes!

Comuters

Gn 125(group two single cylinder 4 stroke very reliable)



cg 125( also group 2 this is the new shape)


There are many variations of these bikes but these two have a long history of reliability so are recomended!




Trials bikes

Varedero 125


Kymco 125


Yamaha dt 125



Cruisers

suzuki marauder125(group 2)

Dragstar 125

suzuki intruder 125

virago 125


Thats all i can think of now so sorry if i missed any! these are all group2 bikes and some come in 250 versions but become a higher insurance group!

[SKAPEGOAT]

Sports bikesup to 125

nsr50/80(both group2 for some odd reason!)


nsr125(restricted group2)unrestricted group 7!!!!!!


tzr125 unrestricted group 3 110mph(on the track)


rs 50 max 65mph will sell faster than any other geared 50cc group 2


rs125 (restricted group2)unrestricted group 7!!!!!!


rgv125/80 Not very reliable BEWARE!!!

[SKAPEGOAT]

Sportsbikes above 125cc

cbr 250r(mc19)group 5 reliable bike(warning!!! quite fast!)


cbr250rr(mc22) same as above updated model!douple disks!


Honda hornet 250(import) group 6(god only knows why?)


Yamaha fzr250. Group 4


zxr250 Group6 (HENS TEETH)




honda duville 650 not sure about group?great bike!



They are all the learner legal bikes i could think of.

if anyone has any input just say! these groups are not gospel but most are correct.

so thats it realy chose one try it on for size check insurance and ride safely!

[HEATZ]

rgv125/80 Not very reliable BEWARE!!!

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fit new rings every service and they are fine just budget for extra service costs(rings/headgaskit and 2hours labor)(i can do it in an hour but better to expect to be charged for two)

[HEATZ]

SKAPEGOAT, on Apr 5 2006, 05:10 PM, said:

nsr125(restricted group2)unrestricted group 7!!!!!!

unrestricted NSR125s are group 7 cos when they 1st came out they wer the bike involved in most of the fatal bike crashes (i know of 3 myself ) from that time

[Larry]

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Group 7 I believe

[heliguy]

How can you find out what group a bike is in.

[Geoff]

heliguy, on Apr 5 2006, 07:47 PM, said:

How can you find out what group a bike is in.

Have a look at the bike world new price list, it includes price, ins group and VRT, or you could just ring AON they are quite helpful

[petecourtney]

HEATZ, on Apr 5 2006, 05:55 PM, said:

rgv125/80 Not very reliable BEWARE!!!

fit new rings every service and they are fine just budget for extra service costs(rings/headgaskit and 2hours labor)(i can do it in an hour but better to expect to be charged for two)

I'd an RG80 for 2 or 3 years and the only trouble I had was with the kick-start splines. Even when I got rid of it the engine was in good nick. Also a very low insurance group, I think group 1, but I'm open to correction on this. Definitely a lower group than the NS1-80cc.

Pete.

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I've just realised you were probably talking bout the 125 heatz, which is a very different beast
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This post has been edited by petecourtney: 05 April 2006 - 09:33 PM

[Daveyhaha]

Yup blew an RG125 engine up myself once upon a time. avoid them like the plague, them and their suicidal power valve design

Dave

[SKAPEGOAT]

HEATZ, on Apr 6 2006, 03:02 AM, said:

unrestricted NSR125s are group 7 cos when they 1st came out they wer the bike involved in most of the fatal bike crashes (i know of 3 myself ) from that time

i knew this im was purely saying its crazy to have them in group 7 as the tzr and rgv are all group three!

RIP to the fatalities but maybe a years road experience on something else would be an idea instead of plainly hiking up the prices! a smart move from the insurance companies could have saved lives!

the restrictions are easy to take out of the Factory restricted model too i have done two and belive me they are not electricly restricted :confused:


Why would anyone buy an nsr125 now when the nsr 75 is faster?

[KaosTheory]

You forgot these...

SV650 Group 5 when Factory Restricted



SV650S Same as above AFAIK



And my weapon of choice...

Honda CBR600F Group 6 when Factory Restricted

[HEATZ]

SKAPEGOAT, on Apr 6 2006, 05:46 PM, said:

i knew this im was purely saying its crazy to have them in group 7 as the tzr and rgv are all group three!

RIP to the fatalities but maybe a years road experience on something else would be an idea instead of plainly hiking up the prices! a smart move from the insurance companies could have saved lives!

the restrictions are easy to take out of the Factory restricted model too i have done two and belive me they are not electricly restricted :confused:
Why would anyone buy an nsr125 now when the nsr 75 is faster?

the problem with the NSR is the crap cheap front forks

i hate the model with a vengance (even though i know em inside out)

my X had one and i spent a day sortin out the forks till they worked properly

(15w fork oil and over 2 inchs of extra preload spacers) just to make it corner right without pattering its self across the nearset ditch!

[jamesobrady]

Yup, biking in ireland....becoming increasingly a rich-man's hobby......

[xlr82nil8]

Well worth Stickying this thread as requested - thanks Skapegoat for creating it!

Al

[SKAPEGOAT]

xlr82nil8, on Apr 8 2006, 05:02 AM, said:

Well worth Stickying this thread as requested - thanks Skapegoat for creating it!

Al

No problem at all i have very little to do with my life when the bike is in the shop!

i explored every option trying to get into bikes and all these were options to me.
most were affordable but some not.

i found that a first bike should be second hand and serviced well because this is where most mistakes, crashes and scratches occur. :cry:

but here is my past bikes
DNA 50 (i was the coolest kid in school!)


TZR 125 (group three went like jesus on fire but i got a bad apple it was a bit neglected...so i fixed it good!)


Hornet 250 most of you have seen this.....



sorry about the size but Meh...

[hyper_kimjie]

nice hornet you got there skapegoat.... how did you acquire that tail light of yours??? me too have hornet250 it's still stock and im a newbie to my bike though had ridden a CB400 sf-vtec type... so if anyone could teach me on maintenance etc... what's best and what's not... every bit's of taught would be very helpful... nice guidelines too...

[KieranY8]

Update:

Yamaha XT 125

Yamaha YBR 125

Honda CBF 125

[dragonfly]

I had a TZR and I loved it, it was the sadest ting when I sold it for a newer bike I cried my eyes out and still to tthis day I want that bike back. It was my first proper bike after a crappy moped my dad made me have for a while.