[KildareMan]

I won't waste bandwidth with photos, look here for photos & fitting instructions

For those familier with scottoiler then the slipperblock is supposedly the next iteration of the application end. Started with a single side applicator, then the duel applicator & now the slipperblock, although just to complicate a little the other two are still available. The single comes with the universal kit, the dual & slipperblock units are additional extras.

I've progressed from the single to the duel, which if you mind the applicator tube ends - clean every now and then, works really well. Chain life increases like you wouldn't believe & you almost forget about adjusting the chain. Reason being that the oil applied to the chain provides a cushion between the sprocket & chain rollers, hard to believe I know, but hay it works.

Now the Slipperblock.
Comes well packaged & includes pretty much everything you should need, a variety of zip ties, both permanent & reusable, superglue, sandpaper, tubing, tube guide & the slipperblock itself which is a softish rubber block which is hollowed with some tubing connected to it. The block is split along the bottom to allow fitment around the chain. Inside the block are some holes for the oil to exit onto the chain.

First things first I'm an RTFM man. It only takes 5 minutes and there are some pictures to . The actual fitting was easy enough, remember, rtfm. And the trial runs up and down the drive showed that it would stay on. Didn't have a chance to try it out at the weekend due to constant "daddy, daddy" etc etc. So first run was today on the commute to work. Stopped after a couple of miles to check all was ok. All was NOT ok, slipperblock was hanging off. Put it back on & checked alignment, which to my eye was near perfect and continued on to work. Didn't stop again until I got to work, slipperblock hanging off again. Bugger <_< . Back onto chain. Lunch time & I checked positioning & applied a couple of extra zip ties, to be sure to be sure. Home time - Sleet & rain all day, now stopped & the sun was out but at about 2 degrees of Mr Celcius's measures the heated grips were on from the word go, unlike the slipperblock which was off after approximately 300 metres. Off again a couple of miles further, stopped checking after that, just turned the adjustment collar to zero.

So what to do? Well first off - Off with the slipperblock & back on with the trusty dual injector.
Second will be an e-mail to scottoiler with a couple of suggestions. Personally think it is a good idea but I think the block needs to be stiffer. The side walls are very pliable.

Overall impression - 5 out of 10.
Recommendation - Dual injector is still the daddy.

[jamesobrady]

Thats a shame...I was hoping it'd be worth a buy.
I've read that chain lash will pop it off easy enough....so anything other than a smooth chain run is problematic.
Im not sure of its installation though....does it just drag along with chain pull is there anything stiff to hold in in position ?
Ie: if you walk the bike backwards does it cause problems?

[steophilis]

dual injector it is so

[KildareMan]

jamesobrady, on Apr 7 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

Thats a shame...I was hoping it'd be worth a buy.
I've read that chain lash will pop it off easy enough....so anything other than a smooth chain run is problematic.
Im not sure of its installation though....does it just drag along with chain pull is there anything stiff to hold in in position ?
Ie: if you walk the bike backwards does it cause problems?

Yes, forgot to mention that you slide a hard plastic tube over the tubing from the slipperblock. This buts up against the slipperblock at one end & the metal bracket at the other thus keeping the slipperblock in a constant position, forwards or back.

[Hatcho]

Interesting that this is a patent pending device - seeing that its basically a Kettenmax chain cleaner that you leave on while riding the bike. Hope they improve its ability to stay on the chain before being granted the patent!!

I like the idea of it - but expecting just about anything to stay straddled on a chain is high hopes IMO. Especially if you have a bit of chain lash due to a tight spot etc. - and pretty much every chain develops one of these quite quickly.

[zOU]

Hatcho, on Apr 8 2008, 09:41 AM, said:

Interesting that this is a patent pending device - seeing that its basically a Kettenmax chain cleaner that you leave on while riding the bike. Hope they improve its ability to stay on the chain before being granted the patent!!

was thinking of that too

Nice idea anyway.

[KildareMan]

Hatcho, on Apr 8 2008, 08:41 AM, said:

Interesting that this is a patent pending device - seeing that its basically a Kettenmax chain cleaner that you leave on while riding the bike. Hope they improve its ability to stay on the chain before being granted the patent!!

I like the idea of it - but expecting just about anything to stay straddled on a chain is high hopes IMO. Especially if you have a bit of chain lash due to a tight spot etc. - and pretty much every chain develops one of these quite quickly.

Sorry Hatcho it's nothing like a Kettermax, the portion that raps round the chain has no brushes. It is a smooth rubber like material.

Pat pending doesn't actually mean they will be granted a patent either, although it does mean that they have applied & have a patent applied for date which trumps anyone else in the patent applied for areas who might try for a patent with a similar device.

[xlr82nil8]

tbh I don't like it. If the block breaks free from it's restraint, it's going straight to the sprocket where it'll likely cause the chain to jam or jump off = potential disaster

Al

[EatinGTarmaC]

jamesobrady, on Apr 7 2008, 09:57 PM, said:

Thats a shame...I was hoping it'd be worth a buy.

+1

[KildareMan]

xlr82nil8, on Apr 9 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

tbh I don't like it. If the block breaks free from it's restraint, it's going straight to the sprocket where it'll likely cause the chain to jam or jump off = potential disaster

Al

To be honest I don't think it would break off as such. It just seems to jump off the chain & hang there from the metal bracket.
Much happier now with my dual applicator.

IF ANYONE wants a used once slipperblock to try out, some items missing from kit, but the basics are there let me know.

[TheBogieMan]

xlr82nil8, on Apr 9 2008, 11:00 PM, said:

tbh I don't like it. If the block breaks free from it's restraint, it's going straight to the sprocket where it'll likely cause the chain to jam or jump off = potential disaster

Al

+1

I'd be very wary of anything that's attatched to the chain, it only takes one little bit to come loose somewhere for a potential nasty incident

[Delboy]

TheBogieMan, on Apr 10 2008, 06:31 PM, said:

+1

I'd be very wary of anything that's attatched to the chain, it only takes one little bit to come loose somewhere for a potential nasty incident

I think i'll stick with my dual injector! Very happy with it!

[nab301]

KildareMan, on Apr 7 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

I won't waste bandwidth with photos,

From the man who started the "Name that plane thread"

KildareMan, on Apr 10 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

IF ANYONE wants a used once slipperblock to try out, some items missing from kit, but the basics are there let me know.

Possibly.... I'd like to see it in the flesh (maybe BMW shaft drive isn't so bad after all )

[jamesobrady]

KildareMan, on Apr 10 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

IF ANYONE wants a used once slipperblock to try out, some items missing from kit, but the basics are there let me know.

Yeah i'll take it off you if its still available?

xlr82nil8, on Apr 9 2008, 11:00 PM, said:

tbh I don't like it. If the block breaks free from it's restraint, it's going straight to the sprocket where it'll likely cause the chain to jam or jump off = potential disaster

I would doubt it...far more likely for it to just get chopped in half and thrown off.

[KildareMan]

nab301, on Apr 10 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

From the man who started the "Name that plane thread"

Possibly.... I'd like to see it in the flesh (maybe BMW shaft drive isn't so bad after all )

Oh that hurt.
Bmw shafts seem to have a nasty habit of costing mega bucks when they go wrong

jamesobrady, on Apr 10 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

Yeah i'll take it off you if its still available?

PM me your address thingy & I'll pop it in the post box thingy

[xlr82nil8]

jamesobrady, on Apr 10 2008, 11:18 PM, said:

Yeah i'll take it off you if its still available?


I would doubt it...far more likely for it to just get chopped in half and thrown off.

"silicone rubber" may well have enough elasticity to take the tooth of the sprocket and stay intact while giving the chain inadequate purchase and causing it to jump. Particularly on the lower run of the chain which is where (the majority of) slack will be.

Anyway, keep us updated on how your "testing" goes
"In its first incarnation the silicone rubber block ..." [Ref]

developmentAl

[crispy]

KildareMan, on Apr 7 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

I won't waste bandwidth with photos, look here for photos & fitting instructions

For those familier with scottoiler then the slipperblock is supposedly the next iteration of the application end. Started with a single side applicator, then the duel applicator & now the slipperblock, although just to complicate a little the other two are still available. The single comes with the universal kit, the dual & slipperblock units are additional extras.

I've progressed from the single to the duel, which if you mind the applicator tube ends - clean every now and then, works really well. Chain life increases like you wouldn't believe & you almost forget about adjusting the chain. Reason being that the oil applied to the chain provides a cushion between the sprocket & chain rollers, hard to believe I know, but hay it works.

Now the Slipperblock.
Comes well packaged & includes pretty much everything you should need, a variety of zip ties, both permanent & reusable, superglue, sandpaper, tubing, tube guide & the slipperblock itself which is a softish rubber block which is hollowed with some tubing connected to it. The block is split along the bottom to allow fitment around the chain. Inside the block are some holes for the oil to exit onto the chain.

First things first I'm an RTFM man. It only takes 5 minutes and there are some pictures to . The actual fitting was easy enough, remember, rtfm. And the trial runs up and down the drive showed that it would stay on. Didn't have a chance to try it out at the weekend due to constant "daddy, daddy" etc etc. So first run was today on the commute to work. Stopped after a couple of miles to check all was ok. All was NOT ok, slipperblock was hanging off. Put it back on & checked alignment, which to my eye was near perfect and continued on to work. Didn't stop again until I got to work, slipperblock hanging off again. Bugger <_< . Back onto chain. Lunch time & I checked positioning & applied a couple of extra zip ties, to be sure to be sure. Home time - Sleet & rain all day, now stopped & the sun was out but at about 2 degrees of Mr Celcius's measures the heated grips were on from the word go, unlike the slipperblock which was off after approximately 300 metres. Off again a couple of miles further, stopped checking after that, just turned the adjustment collar to zero.

So what to do? Well first off - Off with the slipperblock & back on with the trusty dual injector.
Second will be an e-mail to scottoiler with a couple of suggestions. Personally think it is a good idea but I think the block needs to be stiffer. The side walls are very pliable.

Overall impression - 5 out of 10.
Recommendation - Dual injector is still the daddy.

I bought a TDM 900 with the sliperblock fitted, Not sure what mileage he fitted it at but he bought it with 5500 miles on and sold it with 8500, He had 1 block chewed and replaced FOC. I've just lost mine at around 10400 miles but i reckon it because i let the scottoiler resoirvoir run dry. I' gonna price a replacement slipperblock and as long as they are maybe around a fiver will prob order 3 just in case..... But apart from the fact that the bastad got chewed and I didn't have the hassle of fitting it to start with it was maintainance free for the 2 k miles i put on and i never had to adjust the chain.

This post has been edited by crispy: 25 September 2009 - 02:44 PM

[KildareMan]

crispy, on Sep 25 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

I bought a TDM 900 with the sliperblock fitted, Not sure what mileage he fitted it at but he bought it with 5500 miles on and sold it with 8500, He had 1 block chewed and replaced FOC. I've just lost mine at around 10400 miles but i reckon it because i let the scottoiler resoirvoir run dry. I' gonna price a replacement slipperblock and as long as they are maybe around a fiver will prob order 3 just in case..... But apart from the fact that the bastad got chewed and I didn't have the hassle of fitting it to start with it was maintainance free for the 2 k miles i put on and i never had to adjust the chain.

Profi dry lube. No chain adjustment in 4,000 km. No mess on the rear of the bike either.