[Kelpie]

Skinner has recently suggested the IBF has a clique. This kinda amazed me. To say a clique exists, suggests some feel excluded, put down by, less involved etc, than other members they might view as being part of that clique. I'd hate to think this is a common perception of the IBF.

I've only been a member since March 2008 and never felt there to be a clique. On this forum, although some (myself included) can have strong opinions and not afraid to express them, I always felt that we've generally got on very well. Mind you, I'm not concerned about fitting in with an "in crowd" either. So maybe I just don't see it.

Race fans and participants banter away happily with rally heads. Chopper owners shoot the breeze with crotch rocket pilots and experienced, older riders offer advice and sometimes constructive criticism to fledgling riders. Cluchie's from Kilkenny, wind up Southsiders and make them jealous of our Wednesday evening chip run! So, if there is a clique, it's not defined by bike type, gender, location, occupation, age, sex etc...

So what's the general concensus? If you do feel there's a clique, it'd be nice to know why that is, so we can try and make sure we are all aware of what makes people feel excluded and make it a nicer place to be!

This post has been edited by The Greek: 23 July 2009 - 12:44 PM

[Ozzy]

whats this we have to chat to others. I dont play well without my keyboard in front of me
Can we talk to HD riders? Or are we not in there gang

Sorry just ripping the piss

[Magnets]

The Greek, on Jul 23 2009, 10:23 AM, said:

Fixed the poll for ya Kelpie.

Cliquey hoor!! give ya a bell later

[The Greek AKA The cat]

aidan*34, on Jul 23 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

Cliquey hoor!! give ya a bell later

I am waiting??

Have petrol too!

The Greek, on Jul 23 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

I am waiting??

Have petrol too!

Jaysus that could be construed as Clique Talk.

So OK I fess up. Me and Aidan are pissing off on the bikes on our own and we don't want any others with us.

We are not in a relationship we are just taking it easy to see where it goes

[Magnets]

The Greek, on Jul 23 2009, 10:36 AM, said:

I am waiting??

Have petrol too!



Jaysus that could be construed as Clique Talk.

So OK I fess up. Me and Aidan are pissing off on the bikes on our own and we don't want any others with us.

We are not in a relationship we are just taking it easy to see where it goes

Yeah its only holding hands at this stage, no love job

[Kelpie]

aidan*34, on Jul 23 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

Yeah its only holding hands at this stage, no love job

Be warned, he'll probably claim he's either crashed or broken down. Mind yourself when he wants to climb up behind you!

[gardenhero]

aidan*34, on Jul 23 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

Yeah its only holding hands at this stage, no love job

Well just don't take any pics this time.

[Magnets]

gardenhero, on Jul 23 2009, 10:45 AM, said:

Well just don't take any pics this time.

"He's just a jealous guy"


We would invite you along Ted but you and Pete are the IBF crash Kings and throwing Magnets into the mix would be like putting Broc Parkes out in the 400 class .......TOTAL CARNAGE

[jimsenior]

I log on a few times a day.
I enjoy the banter and general bike info.
No, there are no cliques on IBF



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Jimsenior

[Hazardo]

We're all part of the biker clique.

We're all part of the IBF Clique.

Within IBF there are natural cliques formed through common interest/location/whatever.

I don't think I fit into any of the smaller cliques - I've been to a couple of NoBs, a track day, a couple of ride outs, parties... and I intend to go to rallies and race meetings, but I've no one particular area of interest - other than riding my bike - and I've never felt excluded from anything.

What harm that cliques exist? It's natural and there's no malice intended.

I'm worried to see that some members have felt unwelcome and excluded

This post has been edited by Hazardo: 23 July 2009 - 10:14 AM

[Hazardo]

jimsenior, on Jul 23 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

Jimsenior

Have you been using Lynx, Jim

Muchas Maracas

[speedmaster]

My MY Kelpie you certanly got the chatter going

I too am a fairly new blow in (March 08) And I too dont beleive there is a Clique.

Clique.... Sooo Clechey.... (sorry not french and can't spell )

Good point though. I can see new members at the ride outs (SMBR) sitting/standing alone not knowing anyone. Seeing all the oldfaces shooting the brease and feeling a little out of place waiting to get out on the road where youre just another IBF nut.
the quiet people who dont feel comfortable going in to a new group. I did feel like that myself . But only for the first couple of ride outs. Everyone did say hello. A nod of the head a slight wave. the more runs you go on you naturally meet more and more IBF'ers. I can say that I NEVER FELT UNWELCOME. I have made lots of people I would call friends and really enjoy getting out with a group of like minded folk doing what I love.
So dont be shy step into the groups and say hi. Were all very nosey you'll get lots of questons.

Whats your name ? Where are you living? How did you come by that name (slasher)? ......................... ..

well thats my 2 cents

[Drumy]

1 hour since the poll went up
13 to 3
I had said there are some cliques voted

Quote

Yes there is an IBF Clique, I have sometimes felt excluded and unwelcome

don't agree with second part of that statement
should there be a 3 rd option
yes there are cliques but just harmless groups with no malice

so
another question who are the other 2 and why have they not commented

[ridgeback]

Drumy, on Jul 23 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

1 hour since the poll went up
13 to 3
I had said there are some cliques voted

don't agree with second part of that statement
should there be a 3 rd option
yes there are cliques but just harmless groups with no malice

so
another question who are the other 2 and why have they not commented

me..well 1 of them ...dont exactly feel unwelcome but their are groups that stick together right or wrong..thats fine by me..but ibf today and ibf 4/5 years ago are not the same place..again thats not a problem.i have met some really good people and have gotten some great advice..but there are cliques ,maybe not Intensional but they there.. maybe your 3rd option is not such a bad idea

This post has been edited by ridgeback: 23 July 2009 - 10:29 AM

[KeepinHerLit]

IMO the only people who think that IBF has its clique's are the people who don't go to many rideouts, don't meet forum members so therefor arn't going to feel as included in alot of forum conversations as the people who DO know eachother... If you don't make the effort to get to know people it's going to be kind of hard to be included in topics/conversations that go on.

Friends become friends because through meeting and conversing they usually find a common ground and find that they tend to agree on certain matters... so ofcourse if one friends opinions are stated on the forum that other friend will more than likely agree with them... Or take a moment to see the other persons opinion on something... I don't think someone is going to agree with someone else just because their friends, What age are ye if ye do!!

Cliques... Pah

[Hazardo]

Drumy, on Jul 23 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

should there be a 3 rd option
yes there are cliques but just harmless groups with no malice

Couldn't vote on either of the two options offered.

[The Greek AKA The cat]

Drumy, on Jul 23 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

1 hour since the poll went up
13 to 3
I had said there are some cliques voted

don't agree with second part of that statement
should there be a 3 rd option
yes there are cliques but just harmless groups with no malice

so
another question who are the other 2 and why have they not commented

No probs D, tis done.

If there is anyone who voted and wants to change from 1 to 3 let post here for transparency and I will adjust the poll.

[elpigaro]

I for one am willing to pay good money to be spotted, never mind getting into a clique, fed up of reading the bike spotter thread and never been spotted
Elpigaro

[Alan]

ridgeback, on Jul 23 2009, 11:29 AM, said:

..but ibf today and ibf 4/5 years ago are not the same place...

Evolution I suppose sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst....

[The Greek AKA The cat]

elpigaro, on Jul 23 2009, 11:55 AM, said:

I for one am willing to pay good money to be spotted, never mind getting into a clique, fed up of reading the bike spotter thread and never been spotted
Elpigaro

I spotted you once but because you aren't in my clique I didn't mention it

@Drumy - good points. I suppose anyone who came on SMBR's could be considered part of clique but only in so far as people at nob's or out on ride-outs do, at times, refer to off-forum incidents/jokes that can seem to be "in".

As for SMBR's I did always make an effort to meet to talk to anyone new to make them feel included. But I had to stop because I would say hello to someone and a few weeks later I would introduce myself again. Started getting embarrassing getting old!

[Ozzy]

god wont life be very dull around here if everyone seen eye to eye, all the time. I belive we have to watch out for a couple me mad cork people ↲
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And as for them bmw riders not waving i feel so alone when i pass them