[andy gaw]

I listen to a lot of radio as I don't watch T.V, on Monday nights on Newstalk from 10-12 Daragh o Tuamadh presents a show called motormouth, its quite interesting even though I don't have a car. Anyway I e-mailed the guy about doing a wee slot every week concerning motorbikes and here is his reply

Hi Neil,

Thanks for that. I'm all ears as they say - we definitely plan on looking at bikes - although the closest we've came so far is by talking about moto gp - have you any recommendations as to what we'll cover?

Kind Regards,
Daragh

I sent him just a general question, mentioning: New bikes... Road racing...safety issues...grey imports...not Moto Gp as it doesn't really affect us here, only as a TV spectacle. I know the guy has sponsors to answer to but at least he's open to doing something.

What I'm basically trying to do here is maybe get a kind of consensus on ...is it worth having a slot on radio... what should the guy discuss...would it be "commercially viable" for him.

One idea i had is get a " bike instructor" on for a 15 minute slot, and maybe use it as a kind of advertisement for his business ?

I was hoping we could have some suggestions here and I would copy the page and send it to him, and maybe from the other forums, although the pee-taking would have to be omitted, personally i think it would be a good idea even for a 20 minute slot every week, as anything that raises awareness of motorcycles and the riders among the general motoring public would be OK.

Maybe someone on here could kinda collate all the suggestions and present it in a way that he might bite....

Its just a suggestion, what do ye think ?

Link to listen on-line

This post has been edited by A1an: 14 June 2010 - 09:58 PM
Reason for edit: Link added

[klu]

Use it to raise awareness of the siht we have to put up with from the Government.

Case in point; how can a 17 year old get into a the likes of a Subera Impreza legally when I can't even get onto a R6 without choking it to death?

[Hellraiser]

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

Use it to raise awareness of the siht we have to put up with from the Government.

Case in point; how can a 17 year old get into a the likes of a Subera Impreza legally when I can't even get onto a R6 without choking it to death?

For once....that's a very valid point!!

[Kahoots]

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

Use it to raise awareness of the siht we have to put up with from the Government.

Case in point; how can a 17 year old get into a the likes of a Subera Impreza legally when I can't even get onto a R6 without choking it to death?

This really needs to be highlighted. Not that I think I'd have the ability to hop on a Ducati and avoid flying off it moments later, but the parallel of a person younger than me, with less experience, driving an extremely fast car grates on me massively. When you're relying on insurance companies to refuse inexperienced drivers large engines as opposed to the government you know you're in trouble.

[OlderButWiser]

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

......... how can a 17 year old get into a the likes of a Subera Impreza legally when I can't even get onto a R6 without choking it to death?

Because as long as the car can physically make it around the bend, and imprezza's can make it around bends at considerable speed, the 17 will probably survive without incident.

A bike on bends usually crashes because the rider bottled it long before the bike was unable to take the bend.

I don't agree with the restrictions but the 17 year old in a fast car argument doesn't wash.




OBW

[klu]

Kahoots, on Apr 20 2010, 01:18 PM, said:

This really needs to be highlighted. Not that I think I'd have the ability to hop on a Ducati and avoid flying off it moments later, but the parallel of a person younger than me, with less experience, driving an extremely fast car grates on me massively. When you're relying on insurance companies to refuse inexperienced drivers large engines as opposed to the government you know you're in trouble.

Insurance is a legal requirement in this country, they are legally obliged to insure you. You might have to get refusal letters and get the Ombudsman to chase them but they cannot refuse to insure on the grounds of inexperience.

[Kahoots]

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:22 PM, said:

Insurance is a legal requirement in this country, they are legally obliged to insure you. You might have to get refusal letters and get the Ombudsman to chase them but they cannot refuse to insure on the grounds of inexperience.

I meant more that they'll charge a massive premium to avoid insuring the driver

[klu]

OlderButWiser, on Apr 20 2010, 01:22 PM, said:

Because as long as the car can physically make it around the bend, and imprezza's can make it around bends at considerable speed, the 17 will probably survive without incident.

A bike on bends usually crashes because the rider bottled it long before the bike was unable to take the bend.

I don't agree with the restrictions but the 17 year old in a fast car argument doesn't wash.




OBW

A car is a lot larger and a lot heavier than a bike and is going to do a lot more damage when things go pear shaped.

Oh and not to mention that Joe Scobe will probably have his car full of his mates too.

Kahoots, on Apr 20 2010, 01:24 PM, said:

I meant more that they'll charge a massive premium to avoid insuring the driver

Fair point.

This post has been edited by klu: 20 April 2010 - 12:30 PM

[Darkcloud]

OlderButWiser, on Apr 20 2010, 01:22 PM, said:

Because as long as the car can physically make it around the bend, and imprezza's can make it around bends at considerable speed, the 17 will probably survive without incident.

A bike on bends usually crashes because the rider bottled it long before the bike was unable to take the bend.

I don't agree with the restrictions but the 17 year old in a fast car argument doesn't wash.




OBW

and certainly not something radio listeners want to listen to!!


It's radio..no visuals...so it's gotta be INTERESTING content or the listener wil switch off..

Each week could cover a different aspect of biking..

rallies
charity runs
learners/instructors
road racing
biking forums
commuting and types of bikes
etc etc

and inlcuding lots of interviews with real life bikers enageged in the above,..with plenty of characters thrown in to keep the listener amused...

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:22 PM, said:

Insurance is a legal requirement in this country, they are legally obliged to insure you. You might have to get refusal letters and get the Ombudsman to chase them but they cannot refuse to insure on the grounds of inexperience.

Kahoots, on Apr 20 2010, 01:24 PM, said:

I meant more that they'll charge a massive premium to avoid insuring the driver

klu, on Apr 20 2010, 01:26 PM, said:

A car is a lot larger and a lot heavier than a bike and is going to do a lot more damage when things go pear shaped.



Fair point.

Stick to the topic in hand lads

[Yahooo]

It could be difficult due to the possible broad range but how about a bike maintanence/workshop question and answer slot.

I never tire of seeing/hearing how someone else approached a problem or used this bit that works twice as well..

It can always be prefaced by a disclaimer for legal reasons

This post has been edited by Yahooo: 20 April 2010 - 12:39 PM

[andy gaw]

Thanks DC, was just going to asked that it be dropped, maybe some of the MAG committee might use a slot to raise their profile, and possibly show bikers that they are there, "they haven't gone away"

That guy Tony Toner would be good for a bit too

This post has been edited by andy gaw: 20 April 2010 - 12:57 PM

[CafeRacer]

Sounds like a great idea, I would think at this time of the year it would be easy to come up with a few topics to talk about for 15 minutes each week.
I would think that you should cover a few topics every week and not just limit it to one as mentioned above.

You could do the following and it would be free advertising for these events.

Road racing (lots of this on over the coming weeks)
Charity events
Rallies
General rideouts
Promote bike awareness and safety
Promote bike sites like IBF and also I guess the darkside etc
Type of bike of the week maybe one week do race bikes r1's gixxers etc, Next week trailies gs, tenere etc, off road some ktm etc, general commuter cb500
What and where should a learner go instruction type of bike gear to buy

This post has been edited by CafeRacer: 20 April 2010 - 01:01 PM

[Darkcloud]

andy gaw, on Apr 20 2010, 01:57 PM, said:

Thanks DC, was just going to asked that it be dropped, maybe some of the MAG committee might use a slot to raise their profile, and possibly show bikers that they are there, "they haven't gone away"

That guy Tony Toner would be good for a bit too

You could do this yourself Andy,...each week go to a different type of event..record lots of interviews on a digital recorder..go home, edit, record yer own commentary and voila....sure you'll be famous in no time and I'll be bragging to all 'yeah I advised that andy gaw bloke when he was just starting out'

CafeRacer, on Apr 20 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

Sounds like a great idea, I would think at this time of the year it would be easy to come up with a few topics to talk about for 15 minutes each week.
I would think that you should cover a few topics every week and not just limit it to one as mentioned above.

You could do the following and it would be free advertising for these events.

Road racing (lots of this on over the coming weeks)
Charity events
Rallies
General rideouts
Promote bike awareness and safety
Promote bike sites like IBF and also I guess the darkside etc
Type of bike of the week maybe one week do race bikes r1's gixxers etc, Next week trailies gs, tenere etc, off road some ktm etc, general commuter cb500
What and where should a learner go instruction type of bike gear to buy

Stop robbing my ideas ya fcuker

[skipper]

I think it's an opportunity to raise the profile of bikers in general
and a chance to raise awareness with other motorists like the look twice ads in the uk

[CafeRacer]

Sorry DC should have read the full post and just said what he said.

[Linda]

Thanks Andy certainly be interested in doing an EU update (and as most of our traffic laws come from there).
Personnally I think a regular spot on new models - road racing / trials/enduro/ racing in general but from the Irish point of view (maybe GH would be good for that) - and a general news round mentioning ride outs charity runs etc.

[skinner75]

Kahoots, on Apr 20 2010, 01:24 PM, said:

I meant more that they'll charge a massive premium to avoid insuring the driver

Not if the little scrote in question has an Impreza that is 'down in the logbook as a 1.6 standard - which means cheap to insure', yet the car itself has the 'full-fat' turbo'd 2L engine in it. I've seen this in quite a few ads for Imprezas.
Of course, we all know that said scrote isn't actually insured - same as if someone on a bike with a provo license has a 'restricted' bike, but derestricts it on the sly - gets his insurance form, but in the event of a crash, isn't actually insured.

The idea of getting an instructor on the show though is a good idea - they'd be able to put across what they would see alot of with regard to bad driving habits, road conditions etc, as they are driving for a living so to speak.

[Fr Dougal]

Darkcloud, on Apr 20 2010, 01:31 PM, said:

Each week could cover a different aspect of biking..
rallies
charity runs
learners/instructors
road racing
biking forums
commuting and types of bikes
etc etc

CafeRacer, on Apr 20 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

You could do the following and it would be free advertising for these events.

Road racing (lots of this on over the coming weeks)
Charity events
Rallies
General rideouts
Promote bike awareness and safety
Promote bike sites like IBF and also I guess the darkside etc
Type of bike of the week maybe one week do race bikes r1's gixxers etc, Next week trailies gs, tenere etc, off road some ktm etc, general commuter cb500
What and where should a learner go instruction type of bike gear to buy

Some great topics there lads. Maybe do a couple of interviews with some of the long haul guys like Oisin or Sam Uprichard...

Deffo covering a couple of the main charity events would highlight bikers in a positive light.

maybe a slot about how expensive it is to get a new biker into all the PPE and discuss the VAT on PPE. Maybe include some statistics about the number of bikers that go for advanced training.

Maybe a slot about the biker code, wave, nod, cameraderie, never passing a biker that's broken down, kindred spirits etc,.

Maybe a slot giving people advice going touring, either at home or abroad. What to bring, tips about traveling long hours, biker friendly accomodation etc.

This post has been edited by Fr Dougal: 20 April 2010 - 01:18 PM

[klu]

Fr Dougal, on Apr 20 2010, 02:14 PM, said:

Some great topics there lads. Maybe do a couple of interviews with some of the long haul guys like Oisin or Sam Uprichard...

Deffo a couple of the main charity events would highlight bikers in a positive light.

maybe a slot about how expensive it is to get a new biker into all the PPE and discuss the VAT on PPE. Maybe include some statistics about the number of bikers that go for advanced training.

Maybe a slot about the biker code, wave, nod, cameraderie, never passing a biker that's broken down, kindred spirits etc,.

Maybe a slot giving people advice going touring, either at home or abroad. What to bring, tips about traveling long hours, biker friendly accomodation etc.

Good point, should raise the issue that helmets are classed as luxury items despite being a legal requirement.

[Darkcloud]

Fr Dougal, on Apr 20 2010, 02:14 PM, said:

Some great topics there lads. Maybe do a couple of interviews with some of the long haul guys like Oisin or Sam Uprichard...

Deffo covering a couple of the main charity events would highlight bikers in a positive light.

maybe a slot about how expensive it is to get a new biker into all the PPE and discuss the VAT on PPE. Maybe include some statistics about the number of bikers that go for advanced training.

Maybe a slot about the biker code, wave, nod, cameraderie, never passing a biker that's broken down, kindred spirits etc,.

Maybe a slot giving people advice going touring, either at home or abroad. What to bring, tips about traveling long hours, biker friendly accomodation etc.

It should be kept as lighthearted and mainstream as possible..'going off on one' will only make people switch off..
Mad characters talking about their biking experiences and how it has enriched their lives is what ya wnat .............Dick where are you ???