[ChickenStrip]

Hi all,

Looking to trade in my Hornet 600 and ideally Id like to go for the above.

Iv picked a CBR 600 F Sport as I didnt want the kind of uncompromising sportiness of the RR(not yet!) but didnt really like the look of the normal F version. Of course cost is a consideration and good condition F Sports come in at 2k-ish.


Major annoyance on the hornet for me is the lack of adjustability on suspension settings, so looking forward to the options on the Sport! As well as the sportier riding position.

This colour is my favourite :

http://www.donedeal....orbikes/2138189

Does anyone have any thoughts? Maybe someone who has owned one can let me know?

[Darkcloud]

Yep had one for about a year and a half...used it everyday...great bikes..very reliable..comfortable enough but I found suspension rather hard (at any setting) Also no center stand is a pain .. and if you wanna take a pillion forget it

deffo 600F is easier on the body than the 600RR..

Great bikes as are all flavours of 600Fs...the one you've linked to is a nice looker

[ChickenStrip]

Darkcloud, on 25 May 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

Yep had one for about a year and a half...used it everyday...great bikes..very reliable..comfortable enough but I found suspension rather hard (at any setting) Also no center stand is a pain .. and if you wanna take a pillion forget it

deffo 600F is easier on the body than the 600RR..

Great bikes as are all flavours of 600Fs...the one you've linked to is a nice looker

Hmm, there not the worst disadvantages :

- I find the Hornet suspension too soft and wothout a fork oil change etc its a PITA

- Never had a centre stand on any bike!

- Rarely take pillions, but when I do, its for short trips!

Thanks for that Darkcloud!

I actually can't find that many Sports in Ireland, are they a little bit rare compared to RR / Standard F's?

Or maybe its a case of ten a penny when you dont want to buy one but when you do!!??!

[Spiceburger]

They are a great bike.Best of luck with it if ya do decide it"s the one for you

[Blade RR]

The "sport" or F4i model with the two tier seat is a little higher reving and sporty than the standard 600f.

With the traditional 600f you gate a great all round bike with adjustable suspension, nice cockpit etc, good comfy seat. So if its your first this would be the one i would send you towards.

Only upgrade i would recommend would be the front brake lines, apart from that as above, great bike.


I dont know what your budget is but this is a nice tidy standard clean looking bike, price is in stg from Aleens up north.

But as ever, shop around!


http://www.allensaut...ails.asp?id=474
"Year of Manufacture 2006
Mileage 5,067
Price £4,695.00
Status For Sale
Service history, hugger, double bubble screen

In top condition"

[Darkcloud]

ChickenStrip, on 25 May 2011 - 10:03 AM, said:

I actually can't find that many Sports in Ireland, are they a little bit rare compared to RR / Standard F's?

I think you'll find less of them in Ireland as they were only manufactured 01/02 (I think) so kinda limits your choice compared to standard 600F which was produced from way back up to about 2006... although mine was an 03 reg I gather it was an 02 bike

I'd say go with a 600F standard...personal choice would be 99/00 model (FX/FY model)...I sold mine a couple of years ago and regret it to this day

best of luck

[ChickenStrip]

Spiceburger, on 25 May 2011 - 12:02 PM, said:

They are a great bike.Best of luck with it if ya do decide it"s the one for you

Cheers man, hopefully no problems like that SV650!

Blade RR, on 25 May 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

The "sport" or F4i model with the two tier seat is a little higher reving and sporty than the standard 600f.

With the traditional 600f you gate a great all round bike with adjustable suspension, nice cockpit etc, good comfy seat. So if its your first this would be the one i would send you towards.

Only upgrade i would recommend would be the front brake lines, apart from that as above, great bike.


I dont know what your budget is but this is a nice tidy standard clean looking bike, price is in stg from Aleens up north.

But as ever, shop around!


http://www.allensaut...ails.asp?id=474
"Year of Manufacture 2006
Mileage 5,067
Price £4,695.00
Status For Sale
Service history, hugger, double bubble screen

In top condition"

Thanks! The reason I picked a Sport Version is its the first time I have got the go ahead(after considerable effort) from the insurance company for a proper sports bike.

I havnt ruled out the RR(only young once!) or other brands, just the F Sport seemed to fit the bill.

Its a nice bike alright but a bit out of my price range. can't imagine that my Hornet will get a very good price

Darkcloud, on 25 May 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

I think you'll find less of them in Ireland as they were only manufactured 01/02 (I think) so kinda limits your choice compared to standard 600F which was produced from way back up to about 2006... although mine was an 03 reg I gather it was an 02 bike

I'd say go with a 600F standard...personal choice would be 99/00 model (FX/FY model)...I sold mine a couple of years ago and regret it to this day

best of luck

Im a bit torn to be honest! On one hand i I want a "pukka" sportsbike because as I said above "your only young once!" On the other - sourcing one, price, practicality etc!

All good problems to have!

[Kelpie]

I had the CBR600F sport that Darkcloud ended up with. It was my first sports bike after a very long break from bikes and I loved it. VERY quick and flickable and a lot of fun.

I bought the R1 shortly afterwards and when I went back to the CBR I found the front end horribly light so my recommendation would be the addition of a steering damper. Other than that, it's the pick of the 600's from it's era.

Best of luck with your search.

[Blade RR]

Seen this one while looking for something else, 2001, 6k mls for 3300 ? Not bad if its "perfect" as per the add.

http://www.donedeal....orbikes/2139670

[Kang]

used to have an older version. comfort seat but really slow on speed. if u dont drive more than 160 normally then its okay for you. not easy on fuel as well. to be honest after I sold the old 600f, I told myself never get one of these again. but I m that type who likes the fast bikes. so RR is better for my type. F is more like sports + touring.

Alan (Kaos)used to have one of this model himself. 100% match this bike. he should knows more about it.

[Darkcloud]

Kang, on 27 May 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

used to have an older version. comfort seat but really slow on speed. if u dont drive more than 160 normally then its okay for you. not easy on fuel as well. to be honest after I sold the old 600f, I told myself never get one of these again. but I m that type who likes the fast bikes. so RR is better for my type. F is more like sports + touring.

Alan (Kaos)used to have one of this model himself. 100% match this bike. he should knows more about it.

IIRC the bike Kaos had was a standard (non sport) 600F...I thought about buying it at one stage....and it was restricted

Myself / kelpie / fazerpete shared the same one (Polly she was called ) and syllabus on here had one at oen stage .,.other than that I can't remember any others on here having one....but I've a bad memory

[Kang]

Darkcloud, on 27 May 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

IIRC the bike Kaos had was a standard (non sport) 600F...I thought about buying it at one stage....and it was restricted

other than that I can't remember any others on here having one....but I've a bad memory

shake hands.

[KaosTheory]

Kang, on 27 May 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

Alan (Kaos)used to have one of this model himself. 100% match this bike. he should knows more about it.

Darkcloud, on 27 May 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

IIRC the bike Kaos had was a standard (non sport) 600F...I thought about buying it at one stage....and it was restricted

Correct, I had the standard 600F version but there are only a few differences to the FS (or F4i Sport as its called in the US)

Some points have already been mentioned but I'll go over them again just to have all the info in one post:

The FS has a slightly higher revving engine, a few BHP more, a stronger clutch, however, if you buy a 600F built from '03 on you get the same engine as the FS just with a standard clutch (my 600F was '04 and I never had any problems with the clutch)

The FS had the main stand removed for greater ground clearance, cosmetically it also it got a snazzy red/black paint job with a black frame and swing arm and a stepped seat. On the mechanical side there was a different camshaft profile for higher lift valves and it had uprated valves springs. A lighter flywheel. An eight (one extra) plate clutch and a larger final drive for greater acceleration completed the Sport. All of this was done so the bike lended itself better for race tuning.

Living with one day to day is a piece of p!ss, they're a Honda, the last generation of the 600F with a bulletproof motor, all day comfort (I had a 600RR at the same time as I had the f, using the F was like climbing onto a sofa compared to the RR) Stick a Scotoiler and a decent chain on it and you will rarely need to adjust the chain.

Only thing to watch is the Cam Chain Tensioner working itself lose, this happens all CBRs (it happened my 260, 600F, 600RR and 954RR) You can get a manual one from APE Racing in the States or remove and clean the Auto one but it'll only work itself loose again. Its nothing to really worry about, can just make the bike sound a bit rattlely on startup.

Riding wise, its like all 600cc Honda's, you need to rev the absolute nuts off it to get it to go anywhere. Seriously, these things were made for high-revving. She still motors along nicely in the lower revs, but doesn't really come alive until 7k+ rpm. Stick a slip on on for a lovely sound

Loads and loads of parts available for them should you want to tweek and tune it to your tastes. They respond well to Power Commanders and full systems but tbh they're not really needed (you won't get massive power gains though, just a smoother ride) unless you find yourself with a flat spot in the range (happens to some of them)

Hope that helps, if you've any questions just shout, overall they're a fantastic first "proper" sportsbike that's also well able to munch up the miles.

Kaos

[Kang]

jesus,alan talking like a pro.

[ChickenStrip]

Kang, on 27 May 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

used to have an older version. comfort seat but really slow on speed. if u dont drive more than 160 normally then its okay for you. not easy on fuel as well. to be honest after I sold the old 600f, I told myself never get one of these again. but I m that type who likes the fast bikes. so RR is better for my type. F is more like sports + touring.

Alan (Kaos)used to have one of this model himself. 100% match this bike. he should knows more about it.

Darkcloud, on 27 May 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

IIRC the bike Kaos had was a standard (non sport) 600F...I thought about buying it at one stage....and it was restricted

Myself / kelpie / fazerpete shared the same one (Polly she was called ) and syllabus on here had one at oen stage .,.other than that I can't remember any others on here having one....but I've a bad memory

KaosTheory, on 31 May 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

Correct, I had the standard 600F version but there are only a few differences to the FS (or F4i Sport as its called in the US)

Some points have already been mentioned but I'll go over them again just to have all the info in one post:

The FS has a slightly higher revving engine, a few BHP more, a stronger clutch, however, if you buy a 600F built from '03 on you get the same engine as the FS just with a standard clutch (my 600F was '04 and I never had any problems with the clutch)

The FS had the main stand removed for greater ground clearance, cosmetically it also it got a snazzy red/black paint job with a black frame and swing arm and a stepped seat. On the mechanical side there was a different camshaft profile for higher lift valves and it had uprated valves springs. A lighter flywheel. An eight (one extra) plate clutch and a larger final drive for greater acceleration completed the Sport. All of this was done so the bike lended itself better for race tuning.

Living with one day to day is a piece of p!ss, they're a Honda, the last generation of the 600F with a bulletproof motor, all day comfort (I had a 600RR at the same time as I had the f, using the F was like climbing onto a sofa compared to the RR) Stick a Scotoiler and a decent chain on it and you will rarely need to adjust the chain.

Only thing to watch is the Cam Chain Tensioner working itself lose, this happens all CBRs (it happened my 260, 600F, 600RR and 954RR) You can get a manual one from APE Racing in the States or remove and clean the Auto one but it'll only work itself loose again. Its nothing to really worry about, can just make the bike sound a bit rattlely on startup.

Riding wise, its like all 600cc Honda's, you need to rev the absolute nuts off it to get it to go anywhere. Seriously, these things were made for high-revving. She still motors along nicely in the lower revs, but doesn't really come alive until 7k+ rpm. Stick a slip on on for a lovely sound

Loads and loads of parts available for them should you want to tweek and tune it to your tastes. They respond well to Power Commanders and full systems but tbh they're not really needed (you won't get massive power gains though, just a smoother ride) unless you find yourself with a flat spot in the range (happens to some of them)

Hope that helps, if you've any questions just shout, overall they're a fantastic first "proper" sportsbike that's also well able to munch up the miles.

Kaos

Legends! I thought the thread was finished and I log back in and BAM! Loads more info


Truth be told, in the last few days I have narrowed it down to :

2003 - 04 CBR 600RR

CBR 600 F( & Sport)

Same vintage Yamaha R6

Hah!

This weekend will hopefully spent checking out new bikes and getting a trade in price for the Hornet!]#

Cheers again everyone!

[Kelpie]

Lucky sod! Enjoy!

[GARYB]

Best of luck with the purchase - I love having the spons and goin looking at potential purchases - best feeling in the world by my book

Don't forget to share the pics of the new ride with us

[BobbyBoobie]

ChickenStrip, on 03 June 2011 - 10:06 AM, said:

Legends! I thought the thread was finished and I log back in and BAM! Loads more info


Truth be told, in the last few days I have narrowed it down to :

2003 - 04 CBR 600RR

CBR 600 F( & Sport)

Same vintage Yamaha R6

Hah!

This weekend will hopefully spent checking out new bikes and getting a trade in price for the Hornet!]#

Cheers again everyone!

Good thread folks, cheers. Was sort of on the same page as CS in that I'M CONSIDERING a move to sportbikes cbr600rr or the likes but there's a few clean 600fs' out there which might be worth a look... interesting...

[Kang]

If there s a good few WHATEVER bikes for sale - personally I believe they are NOT good. someone may has to sell his/her bike for personal reasons, but... everyone?