[K Kid]

Was in Dublin this week.
Can't believe number of bikes with no lights.

Sorry I didn't see the black bike with the guy in black gear..................

[PaulB]

Ogmios, on 04 August 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

you and me both mate.

Gerrrofff, I can bite my own tongue, you can bite your own.

[wesifumi]

ridertraining, on 29 July 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

You read the bit ^^^ about planks pulling out on them BECAUSE they have the light on, didn't you ?

Edit..yes, i did.

if you are a child, elderly etc judging speeds can be a problem.

if you are an adult and can't' judge the speed of a light bulb travelling down the road toward you, then should you be on the road?




But if i am whooring down country roads and there are side roads and crossroads everywhere, i would rather have my light on than not (and i can't turn it off either, so that must say summat there), if i'm blatting along and i see a sign for a cross roads, obviously i move to a more defensive area in the road to make sure i am seen, also if needs be. i will stick on or flash the full beam just incase.

IMO: It is hard to see a motorbike, moving in different weather/road conditions, without a light on. we have such a small profile and can move so fast, that i'd rather have the light on then not.

This post has been edited by wesifume: 04 August 2011 - 11:25 AM

[gttc16]

wesifume, on 04 August 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

IMO: It is hard to see a motorbike, moving in different weather/road conditions, without a light on. we have such a small profile and can move so fast, that i'd rather have the light on then not.

Exactly, It's sometimes hard to even see a car in some cases.
If you're driving along with a car behind you with lights on and yours are off, nine times out of ten the person pulling out or coming the other direction will only see the car behind you.
Also, driving through a dark area (under trees or the likes) with more than likely dark clothing on and no lights will make you near invisible to someone coming from a brighter area or roadway into the darker area.

For me it's always have dipped heads on.

What ever about light off why do people ride about with just parking lights on.? That I don't see the point of bar lighting up their instrument cluster. Completely useless. If you go to the effort you may aswell turn them on fully.

[PaulB]

Nothing like a discussion about lights to start a good fight.
For me is dipped beams on all the time and if you meet me and my lights are not on feel free to tell me or turn them on (it isnt that obvious on the SP during the day)!

[Ogmios]

PaulB, on 04 August 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

Gerrrofff, I can bite my own tongue, you can bite your own.

oops! - apologies. i appear to have put my foot in it...

[ridertraining]

wesifume, on 04 August 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

But if i am whooring down country roads and there are side roads and crossroads everywhere, i would rather have my light on than not (and i can't turn it off either, so that must say summat there), if i'm blatting along and i see a sign for a cross roads, obviously i move to a more defensive area in the road to make sure i am seen, also if needs be. i will stick on or flash the full beam just incase.

IMO: It is hard to see a motorbike, moving in different weather/road conditions, without a light on. we have such a small profile and can move so fast, that i'd rather have the light on then not.

Maybe whooring along country roads with side roads and crossroads everywhere isn't such a good idea anyway, lights or no lights.

From the MAIDS report, iirc 69% of the bikes involved in collisions were using lights at the time of the impact.

PaulB, on 04 August 2011 - 01:47 PM, said:

Nothing like a discussion about lights to start a good fight.
For me is dipped beams on all the time and if you meet me and my lights are not on feel free to tell me or turn them on (it isnt that obvious on the SP during the day)!

Presumably if your lights aren't on we won't be able to see you to tell you

Ogmios, on 04 August 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

you and me both mate.

You come on a chat forum to say nothing ??
Just put your cards on the table and we'll read them for you

[Ogmios]

ridertraining, on 05 August 2011 - 02:22 PM, said:

...
You come on a chat forum to say nothing ??

Be grateful! - you've heard me ... go on
Just put your cards on the table and we'll read them for you

well - there's the hanged man, death, the burning tower and ...oh - you didn't mean the Tarot then?

i think we'd agree that so much about this topic is "risk compensation" and that the best light to keep burning is the one between yer ears - keep it switched on and your chances improve.
no amount of wattage nor day glo is going to work better than that.

ya did ask!

[blu3]

PaulB, on 29 July 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

PLEASE dont do this, nothing annoys me more on the road that people with their full beams on. It is seriously dazzling, meeting some head on is a bad but when someone is behind you with full beams it is worse.
It is also much harder to judge the persons speed\distance when full beams are on so just stick with the dipped beams, thats what I do and it does the job nicely.

You'll be glad to know that I dont have to leave the full beams on anymore, just modded the Fazer for dual dipped beams and its doing the job!

[Kelpie]

I've seen too many unlit bikes "disappear" not to be using my own headlamps although i don't have a choice on the R1, I do on the TDM and also run auxiliary lights too. I've also been dazzled by bikes who habitually use their full beams and haven't the wit to reconsider dipping them at night. They're bad enough on full beam during the day but at night on a twisty road, they're lethal to oncoming traffic.

[crispy]

Mine are hard wired to run on dip once the engine is running so no choice but given the choice i would run with them on.....

[fabio]

Always have the lo-beam on. But as ridertraining said it's not a substitute for good riding skills either.

[andy gaw]

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This post has been edited by andy gaw: 01 September 2011 - 09:19 PM