[RC8]

Hi, not 100% certain if this is the right section, so apologies in advance if its not.

I am in the process of purchasing a UK bike, so VRT will need to be paid, can anyone point me to a link which inform as to what mileage the bike needs to be over to avoid paying import duty also. Thanks in advance Andy

[Lilliput]

RC8, on 13 October 2011 - 04:44 PM, said:

Hi, not 100% certain if this is the right section, so apologies in advance if its not.

I am in the process of purchasing a UK bike, so VRT will need to be paid, can anyone point me to a link which inform as to what mileage the bike needs to be over to avoid paying import duty also. Thanks in advance Andy

its worked out on the age and CC of the bike

VRT Calculator

[RC8]

Lilliput, on 13 October 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

its worked out on the age and CC of the bike

VRT Calculator

bikes under a certain mileage are also subject to VAT @21% on top of the VRT, the mileage figure is what I am trying to figure out.

[Nori41]

Vat will be charged if it has less than 6,000 miles on it too.

[weetam]

Nori41, on 13 October 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Vat will be charged if it has less than 6,000 miles on it too.

Its
6000 KM or 6 months

This post has been edited by weetam: 13 October 2011 - 05:27 PM

[Alfmoto]

My link

Seems to be 6,000km. Anything over that and you've no VAT to pay.

Good luck with the buy, what are you getting?

Al

[whose-law-anyway]

weetam, on 13 October 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

Its
6000 KM or 6 months

Thats to avoid paying VAT, you have to pay VRT regardless calculated using year and cc. There is a VRT calculator available for free, search google.

I found that its pretty competative in ireland now although you wont get many RC8's or rare bikes.

[RC8]

cheers, found it on the ROS site ya any bike under 6000Km and/or 6mths old is subject to VRT & vat @21%, getting a tricked up superduke!

[Nori41]

RC8, on 13 October 2011 - 08:04 PM, said:

cheers, found it on the ROS site ya any bike under 6000Km and/or 6mths old is subject to VRT & vat @21%, getting a tricked up superduke!

That website is confusing as you must meet both conditions or you end up paying vat.

I got caught for vat and Officer said website was wrong so cough up.

Vrt is easy to calculate. Enter cc and registration and it tells you the ammount .

[RC8]

Nori41, on 13 October 2011 - 08:30 PM, said:

That website is confusing as you must meet both conditions or you end up paying vat.

I got caught for vat and Officer said website was wrong so cough up.

Vrt is easy to calculate. Enter cc and registration and it tells you the ammount .

i'm not worried about the VRT but don't want to get caught for VAT as well.

[Nori41]

RC8, on 13 October 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:

i'm not worried about the VRT but don't want to get caught for VAT as well.

Sorry but you ain't got any choice. The day I went in it was pishing out of the heavens but they insisted in checking the frame number and mileage.
I said why bother as bike was more than 6 months old and then was given the vat invoice. It has to meet both conditions and you will be asked for Dealer invoice too.

This post has been edited by Nori41: 13 October 2011 - 08:45 PM

[zedzzz]

ive just bought a 04 rocket 3 with only 500 miles on it will i have to pay vat as well as the vrt,

cheers ciara

[whose-law-anyway]

zedzzz, on 13 October 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

ive just bought a 04 rocket 3 with only 500 miles on it will i have to pay vat as well as the vrt,

cheers ciara

yes, unless you drive it to berlin and back a few times. 10km per euro at a guess so you need to spend about €550 on petrol to get the milage right. VAT on the rocket would be at the market price they think its worth so prob 10K or somethink crazy meaning a 2k VAT bill.

[weetam]

Brought my bike back from Australia 2 years ago , had to pay VRT and Vat BUT
Vat on the cost of the bike YES
Vat on the shipping charges YES
Vat on the cost of the crate ( had to supply invoice )YES
Vat on the shipping insurance YES
Vat on the import agents fees YES
add all the vats together and then add the cost of the bike and then charged import duty

And then she started up first time - didnt tell them there was a drop of petrol still in it or they would have charged me for that as well

[zedzzz]

whose-law-anyway, on 13 October 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

yes, unless you drive it to berlin and back a few times. 10km per euro at a guess so you need to spend about €550 on petrol to get the milage right. VAT on the rocket would be at the market price they think its worth so prob 10K or somethink crazy meaning a 2k VAT bill.

holy fook !!!! thanks for the advice anyway

[cromwell]

To add to the confusion. If you lived outside of hte country for 1 year and you purchased and owned a vehicle for a minimum of 6 months you will not have to pay VRT or VAT on the vehicle. I know because I did it in 2006 when I move to Ireland and brought with me a 1997 Jeep Wrangler and a 2006 Volvo S40. Then I moved to the US in 2008, (sold S40 in Ireland) and when I moved back to Ireland in 2009. I shipped a HD Sportster and again did not have to pay VAT or VRT as I had lived outside the country for at least a year and owned the vehicle for a more then 6 months.

Tony

[Empty One]

My understanding is that if you have a dealer invoice for the bike and have therefore already paid VAT in another EU country they have no right to charge you VAT a second time. They will argue otherwise, but I know of one case where the buyer did not pay Irish VAT on a bike 18 months old with less than 6k on the clock.

[RC8]

I've purchased the superduke private, had to do up an invoice myself for the seller to sign, oops he forgot to fill in the date....

[Jimi]

weetam, on 14 October 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Brought my bike back from Australia 2 years ago , had to pay VRT and Vat BUT
Vat on the cost of the bike YES
Vat on the shipping charges YES
Vat on the cost of the crate ( had to supply invoice )YES
Vat on the shipping insurance YES
Vat on the import agents fees YES
add all the vats together and then add the cost of the bike and then charged import duty

And then she started up first time - didnt tell them there was a drop of petrol still in it or they would have charged me for that as well

Holy God!
I would have rode the Bike all the way home!

cromwell, on 15 October 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

To add to the confusion. If you lived outside of hte country for 1 year and you purchased and owned a vehicle for a minimum of 6 months you will not have to pay VRT or VAT on the vehicle. I know because I did it in 2006 when I move to Ireland and brought with me a 1997 Jeep Wrangler and a 2006 Volvo S40. Then I moved to the US in 2008, (sold S40 in Ireland) and when I moved back to Ireland in 2009. I shipped a HD Sportster and again did not have to pay VAT or VRT as I had lived outside the country for at least a year and owned the vehicle for a more then 6 months.

Tony

Yes, its 12Months and 1 day minimum.
When i returned to Ireland in 93, i brought home a cheap Escort estate with me. the Customs lads followed me one day until i pulled in, they questioned the vehicle status. i told them i was home from UK and brought it with me.
They said if i could prove residency in UK for a Year and a day there was no VRT to pay. I burned my old Poll Tax demands so i told them to keep the old £50 wreck!

[Pagan]

Empty One, on 15 October 2011 - 11:35 PM, said:

My understanding is that if you have a dealer invoice for the bike and have therefore already paid VAT in another EU country they have no right to charge you VAT a second time. They will argue otherwise, but I know of one case where the buyer did not pay Irish VAT on a bike 18 months old with less than 6k on the clock.

VRT is illegal under EU law, it used to be called excise duty (i think) until they were told by the EU to stop charging it..so they simply just renamed it VRT...wnakers so it doesnt surprise me at all that they'd try get you to pay VAT again on an item...

edit...Paying VAT twice in the EU is illegal under EU law aswell (as you said Empty One) but the Irish Gvt still get away with it. EU law is above Irish law, to avoid paying VAT in Ireland the case could be taken to the European Court, the case WILL be won its just a matter of the time it will take to win it along with solicitors fees....

This post has been edited by Pagan: 02 January 2012 - 07:17 PM