[Powers]

The pin lock on my shoei xr1100 is partially fogging up when it's extremely cold and damp/wet. Anybody know what the deal is? The silicone is tight around the edge to the actual visor but it's still fogging up a bit. Plus, I can actually wipe the fog/breath off the pin lock itself without opening it up and taking off the pin lock Surely that isn't right.

Anybody have solutions or know what the problem is? Cheers.

[petecourtney]

Powers, on 04 December 2011 - 08:50 PM, said:

The pin lock on my shoei xr1100 is partially fogging up when it's extremely cold and damp/wet. Anybody know what the deal is? The silicone is tight around the edge to the actual visor but it's still fogging up a bit. Plus, I can actually wipe the fog/breath off the pin lock itself without opening it up and taking off the pin lock Surely that isn't right.

Anybody have solutions or know what the problem is? Cheers.

I've had similar issues with pin-lock in the past. Have a search on the forum and see what the advice was last time... I think the suggested remedy was to change the insert.

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Or allow me....

http://www.irishbike...lock-acting-up/

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This post has been edited by petecourtney: 04 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

[Powers]

petecourtney, on 04 December 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

I've had similar issues with pin-lock in the past. Have a search on the forum and see what the advice was last time... I think the suggested remedy was to change the insert.

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Or allow me....

http://www.irishbike...lock-acting-up/

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Yup I'm having the exact same problem as drag. It can fog up a little bit at the bottom between the visor and the insert but that's simple cos I haven't got it on tight enough, my bad etc. But the main problem is the moisture and condensation building up on the insert itself. Looks like I've got a dud Cheers for that Pete.

[delooney]

Didn't read Pete's link, but, I think I've had a similar problem before, I reckon it's when some moisture is trapped in the airspace between the visor and pinlock insert, if it's cold outside, the moisture condenses and forms mist. Bah.

The solution might be to remove the pinlock insert, leave the visor and pinlock in a warm, dry area (such as a hotpress), then fit the insert (hold your breath and avoid panting all over it) and ensure it sits properly so that you get a good seal around the edges.

[Powers]

delooney, on 04 December 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

Didn't read Pete's link, but, I think I've had a similar problem before, I reckon it's when some moisture is trapped in the airspace between the visor and pinlock insert, if it's cold outside, the moisture condenses and forms mist. Bah.

The solution might be to remove the pinlock insert, leave the visor and pinlock in a warm, dry area (such as a hotpress), then fit the insert (hold your breath and avoid panting all over it) and ensure it sits properly so that you get a good seal around the edges.

I'll give that a bash, sound. I've some of the muc off anti-fog spray too that I could put on it maybe

[V TWIN]

Powers, on 04 December 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

I'll give that a bash, sound. I've some of the muc off anti-fog spray too that I could put on it maybe

Yes, as delooney says, it's moisture trapped in the airspace between the visor and the pinlock insert - as warm air carries more moisture don't fit the pinlock in your nice warm and steamy kitchen, do it somewhere where the air is cold and dry (difficult to find in this climate but cold air should be a bit drier) and don't use any sprays on the pinlock insert

Let's know how you get on

[Powers]

V TWIN, on 05 December 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

Yes, as delooney says, it's moisture trapped in the airspace between the visor and the pinlock insert - as warm air carries more moisture don't fit the pinlock in your nice warm and steamy kitchen, do it somewhere where the air is cold and dry (difficult to find in this climate but cold air should be a bit drier) and don't use any sprays on the pinlock insert

Let's know how you get on

Hmmm, ya see the problem is there's condensation and mist on the actual insert, as in the outside of it, not between the visor and the insert

[Magnets]

Powers, on 05 December 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

Hmmm, ya see the problem is there's condensation and mist on the actual insert, as in the outside of it, not between the visor and the insert

There must be moisture inside the helmet so, are you putting your lid on with wet/gelled hair? Have you the vents closed on the lid? The XR has fantastic venting so it can't be that unless you have them all closed and are wearing thick a buff/neck tube/scarf that is preventing air flow within the helmet, allowing your breath to turn into condensation.

[fabio]

You change the Pinlock often on that visor don't you? Might be that...unsettling it too often maybe...

[Powers]

Magnets, on 05 December 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

There must be moisture inside the helmet so, are you putting your lid on with wet/gelled hair? Have you the vents closed on the lid? The XR has fantastic venting so it can't be that unless you have them all closed and are wearing thick a buff/neck tube/scarf that is preventing air flow within the helmet, allowing your breath to turn into condensation.

Nope, no wet hair or gel Magnets. Ya the venting system is unbelievable on, it actually works! No thick buff or tube or scarf etc. Only time the inside of the helmet might be slightly damp is when I hang it from one of my mirrors after a bit of rain or whatever. But it still has condensation when I don't do this and when the inside of the helmet isn't wet etc.

[Magnets]

Powers, on 05 December 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

Nope, no wet hair or gel Magnets. Ya the venting system is unbelievable on, it actually works! No thick buff or tube or scarf etc. Only time the inside of the helmet might be slightly damp is when I hang it from one of my mirrors after a bit of rain or whatever. But it still has condensation when I don't do this and when the inside of the helmet isn't wet etc.

If you were in Dublin I'd tell you to bring it to me to look at, I'd recommend you bring it to your nearest Shoei dealer, they will sort it for you.

This post has been edited by Magnets: 05 December 2011 - 12:15 PM

[Powers]

Magnets, on 05 December 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

If you were in Dublin I'd tell you to bring it to me to look at, I'd recommend you bring it to your nearest Shoei dealer, they will sort it for you.

Ya I'll bring it back down to Lee Honda i'd say, cheers anyway Magnets.

[V TWIN]

Powers, on 05 December 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

Hmmm, ya see the problem is there's condensation and mist on the actual insert, as in the outside of it, not between the visor and the insert

ah ha, that's a different problem entirely and very difficult to understand. That misting up must be caused by your breath - try holding it for an hour or two and see what happens

[V TWIN]

V TWIN, on 05 December 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

ah ha, that's a different problem entirely and very difficult to understand........

unless you store it somewhere very cold

[Powers]

V TWIN, on 05 December 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

ah ha, that's a different problem entirely and very difficult to understand. That misting up must be caused by your breath - try holding it for an hour or two and see what happens

I know I only have a short enough trip out to college but doubt I'd be able to hold my breath for that long unfortunately

V TWIN, on 05 December 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

unless you store it somewhere very cold

Nah tis kept in the dining room next to the computer. I tried the visor with the temperamental insert on my black shoei Qwest earlier on, made no difference, so I believe I can rule out vent issues.

Took off the clear insert and fitted my yellow/orange one, seemed to make a difference alright, condensation isn't really happening but she's not sealing perfectly to the visor face, probably my fault with the fitting, needs tweaking I say.