[gipi]

There's a report on the MAG UK website regarding compulsory Hi Vis and the ongoing campaign in the UK. Here's the opening paragraph

http://www.mag-uk.or...ewsdetail/a6937

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Following confirmation that hi-viz is to become compulsory in France from 2013 and Ireland from 2014, MAG member Jon Wilmer (Regional Rep for Thames Valley) has launched a petition calling on the British Government to put pressure on the European Commission to discipline any member state that imposes clothing standards such as hi-viz on motorcycle riders.

Have MAG UK got it wrong? I thought Ireland was still discussing the matter....or is there something we haven't been told yet?

[the bandit]

me thinks mag is jumping the gun

[petecourtney]

the bandit, on 13 January 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

me thinks mag is jumping the gun

MAG UK?

[carsQhere]

High viz is already mandatory here. But only for learners so nobody really cares.

The RSA is proposing mandatory high viz for both riders and pillion passengers, but so far it's still only a proposal. You'll find all you need to know here;

http://www.magirelan...ampaigns/hiviz/

If that's a bit too much reading, then this is the bones of it: http://www.magirelan...isProposals.pdf

[gipi]

Thanks for the links carsQhere.
I was aware of the proposal, but the wording on the MAG UK news item implies that it's already been decided and is law here, I wonder where they're getting it from?

This post has been edited by gipi: 14 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

[gramps]

Don't kick me bike over, but I can't see what the fuss is all about. If it makes you a bit more visable to those blind cnuts in their cages then I dont mind too much. Some may remember I lost my verginity at a roundabout in Clonmel a while back. I was wearing a high vis jacket and he saw me but still decided to pull out in front of me . Have yet to get the jacket replaced, can't afford €160, not working. But fcuk me, if it didnt happen again, and yes, at another roundabout 2 weeks ago. Went onto a roundabout to turn right, as I went to straighten up, she came alongside me on the left and I had no option but drop the bike. No damage, just pished off. This time no high viss. Would she have seen me if I had high viss on?, who knows. I just know when the claim is settled, its the first thing I buy.....then a 50" tv, xbox 360, loads of games, new bike , holiday to Spain....on me new bike of course, oh, and might give the kids€10 each (im nothing if not generouse) .

[The Mex]

Hi viz will not make you more noticable....

I'm not going to bang on about it on this thread but Hi viz is a myth....

Try imagine someone claiming not to see this...

[Slow Poke]

id rather have the choice to wear one and not be told that i have to wear one ,,, but if they can't see me lights coming and the noise of the bike then they aint goina take a blind bit of notice of me wearing a hi-viz behind the screen of me bike

[Linda]

Slow Poke, on 16 January 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

id rather have the choice to wear one and not be told that i have to wear one ,,, but if they can't see me lights coming and the noise of the bike then they aint goina take a blind bit of notice of me wearing a hi-viz behind the screen of me bike

MAGs argument exactly if they don't look their not going to see. When MAG met with Noel Brett last November I asked that if smidsy type accident rates don't fall will they cancel the mandatory use of Hi-Viz. Of course not. Interestingly most of the bike fatalities last year were smidsy type accidents. Which just goes to prove that this proposal will not deter drivers. Now if they said we're making Hi-Viz compulsory and if you pull out in front of a biker wearing one you will be automatically done for dangerous driving then I might be more willing.

[KaosTheory]

Linda, on 17 January 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

Now if they said we're making Hi-Viz compulsory and if you pull out in front of a biker wearing one you will be automatically done for dangerous driving then I might be more willing.

That's actually a bloody good idea.

We all know it, its not bikers visibility that is the problem, its people not looking for bikers in the first place. But of course, its easier to force a new law on the minority at minimum cost to the Gov that will make very little difference, rather then tackle the actual problem that driver training in this country was for years, completely inadequate. FFS there was a time you got your drivers licence simply by applying for it.

[ash]

dont realy care what the laws mite say if you wear anything over modern biker gear then you block the built in reflrctive strips
and look like a twat which is more likely for you to get hit by a car